Tips To Keep You Safe When Near Rude 'Protesters' - Wednesdays At Manny's Bar on 16th & Valencia Streets

      Greetings to All!

Manny's Bar & Cafe 

     Join us, as we all move forward in 2019, to expose any person or thing that abuses or endangers our people in San Francisco.

      Especially those of us who are more vulnerable or have greater needs for safety & security than others.

  WE MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON PRINCIPLES, REALITY & FACT, NOT APPEARANCES, HYPE OR PROPAGANDA

     We remain dedicated to the belief that a human individual  or 'group' should NOT be judged by 'appearances' (i.g. dress style, banners, badges, look of age, skin colors or tones) or stereotypes (i.g. young people, old people, white people, black people, indian people, homeless or poor people, rich people, asians, middle easterners, christians, catholics, muslims, jewish, straight, gay, LGBT people, et. al).

      This is because the superficial appearance of what or who you are (or claim to be or are being stereotyped as) --  tells us nothing about Individual Conduct or Behavior which either helps us or harms us.

    GREAT LEADERS LEAD BY SUPPORT PEACE, LOVE, UNDERSTANDING, DIGNITY, RESPECT & COMPASSION, NOT BY INTIMIDATION, BULLYING OR IGNORING THE SAFETY OR SECURITY OF THE INNOCENT

Daniel O'Connell, Ireland

     Many Great Leaders lead by being wise and passionate about concepts like Humanity.

     Like Anti-Slavery Liberator Daniel O'Connell (whose nation suffered Centuries of abuse, murder, mass starvation & genocide before the 1900's) who in 1845 hosted and  inspired American ex-Slave & Honorable Statesman Frederick Douglass.   Who came back to New York from O'Connell's country, later, to help continue the Struggle for Dignity & Respect For All Humans, often termed Universal Suffering which unites us all - instead of dividing us.   He also helped support Women's Suffrage Movements and others.

    Honorable Mr. Frederick Douglass' Story With Mr. Daniel O'Connell in Ireland
 
  Link: http://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/frederick-douglass-met-daniel-o-connell-1845 

    The Great Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was in turn, inspired by the wise & good works of Mr. O'Connell & Mr. Douglass.    

     Who in turn inspired John F. Kennedy; Robert Kennedy and countless others, from all walks of life to lead and support movements to protect all lives,  as One People, Undivided Amongst Ourselves.   Sharing lives and intel with Love, Not Hate for anyone except individuals and groups who are the origin of our common oppression & impoverishment and inequities.

    As all these Individual Leaders and others inspired so many of us whom protested at Occupy SF.  For example, we applied the concept of treating others with respect and dignity which enabled us to answer people's questions,  protect the vulnerable around us and be smart about maintaining self control under extreme circumstances, without HATE.

    This enabled our messages and real stories & facts about all the banking, mortgage & other scandals to be shared with people from around the world, including city workers who would come to us at night, to get information on mortgage and banking robo-signing & other frauds.

     The frauds that keep us all in constant states of fear & oppression.    Often manifesting in self destructive acts or hatred (for hatred's sake) towards other people who are not responsible for our suffering or victimization.

     Directing the energy of hate one feels into a weapon of positive action to be directed solely at the source of their oppression is the best way to prevent harming others by misplaced hatred or aggression.

HUMANS MAKE MISTAKES.   WISE PEOPLE ADMIT IT!

     Some of us have been doing protests since WTO Seattle in the mid-1990's where we were gassed under orders of a Police Chief who authorized violence. 

    Five years later he renounced his own orders as being wrong & unconstitutional; later becoming head of LEAP - Law Enforcement Officers Against Prohibition (Cannabis).   An example of a person in power, who made a mistake and was Human enough to admit it AND start doing activities to help others in need.

DECADES OF PROTEST EXPERIENCE TEACHES US TO MAINTAIN RESPECT & DIGNITY FOR ALL. 

 DO NO HARM TO THE INNOCENT.

      In all of the decades of protests our peers have been in,  protecting others privacy (the innocent, not the targeted public figures or bad actors) is paramount.   We respect others no matter what the law says about recording people in public.

   Laws are guidelines that come from the Will of The People as interpreted (or messed up) by legislators.

    If one is 'allowed' to do something by law but doing that thing will potentially harm another, than you are GUILTY of bad conduct that may harm another innocent human being, no matter whether the law permits it or not.

    Real Life Respect for the safety or security needs of other innocent human beings Supercedes all law.

   Harming innocent people under the guise of 'being lawful' is a copout for NOT taking personal responsibility for one's own lack of self control or ability to respect the needs of others in their community.

     Many of our peers are victims of domestic abuse, crime or under protection orders or may even be the target of stalking.

    Whenever anyone has asked to NOT be video recorded or not have their face plastered on global sites like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. we Honor That.  

REAL LIFE EXAMPLE OF RESPECTING PRIVACY UNDER PRESSURE

    For instance,  when Black Block members were bashing in the windows of a bank,  one of our peers was a few feet away filming the event.    The BB member shouted 'Hey, don't video me doing this, right now!'  

    Our peer immediately pointed his camera down;  thought for a moment (realizing the public importance of the action) negotiated, saying 'How about I promise to blur your faces on the final copy published?' 

     The rabble rouser thought for a second,  pondered the integrity of the peer filming and gave the go ahead to keep on filming the action.  

    BLAM!  The hammer struck the Bank's Window and it was all caught on film,  in a way that still informed the public but protected the security or safety needs of the person asking for it.


     That's called Dignity & Respect for others, even if they are doing something one may not agree with.

DOING WHAT'S LEGAL VERSUS DOING WHAT IS RIGHT 

     Would it have been 'legal' for anyone to film that event and the people doing it ?   Yes.

   However,  we maintain a belief system that demands we protect the safety & security of all people whether it's in public or private places.

      Any person or 'protester' who ignores pleas to NOT be filmed or published online can't be trusted or relied upon because they lack control, respect and integrity in their own conduct & behavior.

   The put us all at risk or being harmed (often by the same perceived enemies) for no good reason.

    So, when protesters, activists or anarchists do not respect the individual residents' need for extra measures of safety and security how can we trust them or believe in their causes or support them, in the first place ?  

    They become just as dangerous as the elite in power who likewise do not respect individuals needs for safety & security in our communities.

     This is how it is with the 'protesters' who appear every Wednesday outside of their Target;  Manny's Bar & Cafe at the corner of 16th & Valencia Streets, between 6pm & 7:30pm.

ATTEMPTS TO GATHER FACTS OR HAVE A REASONABLE DISCUSSION OR DEBATE AT THIS MANNY'S BAR & CAFE 'PROTEST' ARE FUTILE 

    After hearing reports from local residents that it was hard to get facts or questions answered by the protesters, one of our peers (who's worked WITH this group's leaders and supported groups like the Mission SRO Collaborative & others for decades) decided to visit there last Wednesday to gather facts and observe the protests first hand.

   What a shocker!  

       First the peer advocate asked a protester for a Flyer.

      When the advocate tried to ask a question, the Flyer guy rushed away saying he doesn't have time to answer any questions.  

    So, the advocate turned to ask another woman standing next to the bus stop,  some questions when another protester pointed a camera at the advocate.

   The advocate has personal & safety needs to NOT be filmed or have their face placed onto the internet in high profile postings and put the flyer up to block the camera AND  asked the protester to NOT film him.  His actions to defend himself from being filmed & his reasonable requests were ignored by these so-called 'protesters'.

      Not only did the one protester NOT STOP when asked,  she actually moved her camera around the flyer being used to block her camera and came closer to keep filming,  against the obvious objections of the advocate.

       Others 'lied' and said they were filming the peer advocate 'attacking' their protester.    What a crock of cow manure !  

     As the advocate's blood pressure (at the shock of such disrespect & rudeness and what could happen to his own life and family if his face is posted) went up,  he Demanded that he not be filmed.

      The more he demanded them to STOP, the more protesters popped up to video tape him for No Good Reason other than to take some sick delight in watching a local resident get angry for not being duly respected.  

    Supposedly, NO is supposed to mean NO when someone is pleading to NOT be violated or endangered by another human being, right ?

    It's hard to imagine any of our peers filming someone, that may need special consideration or protection due to a personal safety issue.   They don't even have to explain why, all they have to do is ask and we'll respect their wishes, unless they are The Target of our protest.

    Imagine if we posted a victim of abuse in hiding on Facebook for their Predator to see ?  

    Would it be legal to film someone in Public, even if they say NO?

      Yes, in most cases,  but to stand on that as an excuse to ignore the wishes of innocent residents who DO NOT WISH to be filmed is self-serving, non-empathetic bullshit.   Plus, if you follow someone around to film them, then you have changed the nature of the legal act to an illegal act of Stalking & Harassment.     Filming someone in public during a political event is one thing, but continuing to film and innocent person, ganging up on them and following them around is another.

     If someone is harmed because you chose to ignore their safety needs,  than you are the one to blame for it, no matter if it's legal or not.

     If people demanding privacy on the streets are NOT the target of your protest or whatever, then why do you think it's acceptable for you to ignore their needs for your own desires or goals ?

TIPS TO BE SAFE WHEN NEAR MANNY'S ON WEDNESDAYS

    As far as these Wednesday protests by these particular protesters, are concerned,  we suggest you do NOT try to engage them or ask them questions or try to gather facts from them because their conduct & behavior may put you at risk.     They lack self control and discipline to keep locals safe while they protest.  

   

       We went there to find documents, evidence and proof of the arguments being made, on all sides.   We don't make decisions on issues, based on 'the groups' or individuals involved because anyone can be wrong and individuals move from group to group, at any time.

      We look deeper into documentable conduct & behavior and speeches measured over time.  We don't trust any one person or group, per se.

    Talk is cheap and interpretations of online 'texts' 

are even cheaper not evidence of much, as is.      

      We haven't seen any proof that Manny doesn't want both Israel & Palestine to have their own states. 

 However, with our own eyes,   we've seen people 

of all walks of life and political persuasion 

going inside;  having meetings and progressing 

their diverse and often opposing campaigns forward 

by utilizing this space, no matter who runs it. 

   Many Oppressed Individuals & Groups are benefitting from this space,   politics or side-taking & 'sketchy' boycotts, be damned.

       Not unlike Schindler who was under Nazi Rule and Appeared to support them, while he secretly employed and saved the lives of untold numbers of people at risk of being harmed or killed by The Nazis,   some of our peers are forming the opinion that this place, in reality, exists and is being used by all kinds of people for all kinds of causes.

   There is no other spot near us where we can go, so until someone else can build another space for ALL OF US, then Manny's spot will have to do.

MANY LOCALS HAVE NO OTHER PLACE TO GO MEET UP SAFELY 

   For example,  the Owner of Muddy Waters has kicked out scores of locals because of their appearance, medical condition, support of Palestine, being homeless or mentally ill or too poor to buy more than a Small cup of coffee.  

   Some of you may remember Occupy Muddy Waters when we had BBQ's and lounge chairs out front to protest their money grubbing, upscaled policies of discrimination and hatred based on bias & politics, not human conduct or behavior.   With Hatred comes Fear.

BE SAFE ON WEDNESDAYS IF YOU ARE NEAR 16TH & VALENCIA STREETS,  FROM 6PM TO 7:30PM

   If you plan on being near the NW Corner of 16th & Valencia Streets on Wednesdays, we suggest you NOT engage these particular protesters.  

    We take no stand on whether you should patronage Manny's Bar & Cafe or not, except the fact that he employs our local homeless people and lets anyone come in without much apparent discrimination.

     We take no stand on whether he's a Zionist Person (using definitions of any person of the Jewish Faith) which tells us nothing about his human rights beliefs or he's an Elite Zionist (using definition of Extremist Elite who are of Jewish faith but harm others because of their greed and inhumanity)

    If you choose to go into Manny's Bar & Cafe,  we suggest you do so as quickly as possible.   If you have personal privacy or safety needs consider wearing a hoodie, sunglasses, bandana to hide your face because these protesters will publish your face (and possibly try to put you down) online for the world to see,  whether you want them to or not.


      These protesters have shown us they have NO RESPECT for local residents asking questions or the patrons who go inside or not;  and will not honor your reasonable requests to NOT be filmed and broadcast, for their own political gains and desires. 

     Based on their own conduct and behavior we saw that when it comes down to it, at the end of the day,  they only seem to care about what they want and DO NOT CARE if what they want to do harms the innocent or demonizes folks because they choose to be in a place that is helping scores of oppressed residents with work and 'a place' to be that is safe.

BE PART OF THE SOLUTIONS WITH LOVE & RESPECT, NOT BLIND HATE & BAD CONDUCT TO OUR LOCALS

    We encourage anyone who is concerned about gentrification or abuse of our people in need to use any space they can to work together to exchange information and carry out protests & campaigns that will uplift and save our lives, not cause hate or promote disrespect inside our own communities.

       NOTE:   Even after one of the Leaders of these protests told the group that he's known the peer advocate for a long time and said 'he's okay' the group continued their rude behavior and filming anyway.

      One drunk protester even told the good advocate to 'Shut Up!' several times and tried to tell him where to stand on the sidewalk, etc.    

      So, it is what it is.  

    We went there to get facts to support the Protesters' position and consider supporting them and instead,  based on their own bad conduct & behavior against a peer who makes a much better friend to our people than an enemy.

   We left with the impression that this particular protest appears to be based in hatred, hearsay & fear,  rather than hard cold articulate fact.    Protesters there don't answer legitimate questions,  they just keep repeating 'words' over and over again.    They don't listen to you,  they do what they want and talk over you.

    If you want them to NOT video you, they ignore you and 'gang up' on you.   Fear & Hate was all we saw happening there.

   To the contrary,  we now have felt what it's like to be disrespected by peers and groups we've supported in the past or may be inclined to support now and only because they appear to be driven more by blind hate than sound reasoning, we cannot support them when it comes to the protesting issue at hand.     

    Causing harm or putting the innocent at risk is unacceptable in private or in public.   Doesn't matter what the law lets you do, its up to each one of us to NOT harm or put other residents at risk.

      Our peers treat others as they would like to be treated,  but these protesters showed by their own conduct that they Do Not Care.      

     This Lack of Care reminds some of us of the Cremation of Care Ceremonies held annually at the Bohemia Grove Camp run by The Elite who practice cult like ceremonies.

     When common people in our communities start to "NOT CARE" about others who have done no harm, then The Elite wins.

      We Stand on the principles and teachings of doing no harm in our struggles for peace, justice, equity and freedom to speak and be heard & respected, no matter who we are, what we look like, or where we are from, as individual human beings.

     Anyone who generates hate, disrespect or indignations or harm towards our people shall continue to be exposed here, no matter who they are or who they think they are, in their own minds. 

   ALL PEOPLE DESERVE RESPECT & DIGNITY WHILE AT WAR OR AT PEACE ESPECIALLY THE INNOCENT.

     We'd like to see local residents PROTEST with signs of LOVE NOT HATE and maybe some non-extreme Christians, Muslims, Palestinians & Israeli People, Supporters & Leaders show up in Solidarity Against HATE & SUPPORT UNIVERSAL HUMAN SUFFERING CAUSES to counter the HATE of these Protesters, we saw first hand  outside of Manny's Bar & Cafe,  this past Wednesday, January 23rd, 2019. 

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This is an ongoing Story.   Various Old & New Definitions of Zionism & Zionists will be included along with other information, research and media, at a later date.   

Peace Out! 

Jason - Volunteer Moderator

   

 

   

   

     

Why would an SFPD Sergeant Practice Elder Abuse, in violation of human rights and common decency ? Sit-Lie Law.

Why would an SFPD Sergeant Practice Elder Abuse, in violation of human rights and common decency ?   

    This is about Individuals choosing to mis-apply power and laws only 'as written' without thought or reflection upon Duty to Constitution, Intent of the law and stated City, Public or Department policies and guidelines.    

   This is about a law that Stands in Violation of Internationally Recognized Human Rights, called the Sit - Lie Law.   This is about Elder Abuse.   This is about power and control and drug, alcohol and psychological problems inside every town's police and every county's sheriff's department, as evidenced by this incident and others we've seen over the years.

   During today's encounter, we saw and experienced real life elder abuse, under color of authority, contrary to public policy and the promises made to us all, when police and city leaders told us it (sit-lie law) would only be applied 'as needed' (for folks who are sitting and bothering others) -- not to be used on anyone we feel like, without just cause or complaint.

    You can check local news archives and city department archives to verify all they said as they ramped up support for these inhumane laws that are used as stepping stones to 'push people around', move folks from one place to another against their will who are not harming others or breaking any just laws, at all.   Another fraud and betrayal of public trust to 'legalize' abuses of our people, especially the disabled, elderly and veterans among us.

    Also, the medical cannabis laws, 'lowest priority' ordinances and police department policies are clear -- to not bother folks medicating, unless they are causing a harm, disturbance or breaking other laws (ie. not just cases where an elder attorney, sits with client where they live and socialize and have bankers and neighbors walk by seeing two law abiding residents being harassed by a uniformed officer in public).

   Here's what happened and we saw how easy it could be for a child to be shot only because the officer chose to bother folks not bothering anyone else.  He was looking for trouble and a child could have been shot or we could have. 

   That's why our blood pressure goes up when we're not bothering anyone and approach us for no good cause by officers, who today, have reputations for beating, stealing and murdering and lying and fostering all kinds of hate and biases in endless streams of text messages.

   Today, our attorney was talking to us and we saw the CLOSED sign on Mission Hiring Hall across the street from the cafe where we hang out. 

 When we wish to speak in private without cafe security cameras and laptops everywhere, we walk or hobble across the street.  Karla is very old and she sits down on her $25 stool while I medicate on medical cannabis. 

      We do this usually when the hall is closed in front of inoperable windows, close to the alley so the smoke blows away from sidewalk.   We watch for kids and also watch others who may be harming themselves or others and keep medication on the down low, as we've been doing for generations now.

   This was the case today.   We were discussing legal matters and saw a strange man lurking at the door and then arguing with a woman they walked towards the bank and kept arguing which interuppted our legal chat.

    Then an officer (Sgt. Petuya #1712) walked right past them, paying them no attention, spoke to some african american gentleman in the alley, then saw me and said, 'Hey, do you know that's against the law to smoke there ?"

  I said, "no.   As far as I know, smoking in front of inoperable windows is not illegal and there are no posted No Smoking Signs visible."

  He said, 'No. I mean that's not a regular cigarette, right ?' 

  I replied, 'no, it's medical cannabis (for my knee pain), and I don't know any just law that says I can't smoke outside for medical neccessity.'

  Then he turned his attention to my elder, lady attorney, resting on her $25 stool which she needs due to many causes that I'm not sharing publicly.    As its really noone's business, why any person, let alone a very old person has to justify sitting on their own stool to rest upon, not bothering anyone.

      But, being bothered by an expensive and often potentially corrupted or deadly police officer (and not a rookie, but a Sergeant), is a very bad, nerve wracking proposition no matter how  you look at it.

    A person her age, one 'fall' down a stair could kill her.   Her blood pressure shot way up as mine did because this story got weird.

   As we were there, a young child about 8 years old, sneaked up on us --  while this Sgt. was harassing us and was 'hiding and playing' behind a wall of the alley that the officer could not see... I was terrified and tried to get the child to go away.

   The father was busy on cell phone not paying attention.   If that child had pulled out a TOY GUN, the cop, being apparently with a chip on his shoulder (or judgemental bias he had before he even saw us) or under influence of drug, alcohol or mental impairment (for wanting to bother us for no reason and no complaint is abnormal) -- we could have all been shot dead.   

    In 2015, we'd prefer to not be near any cop unless they have a legitimate cause or truly reasonable suspicion of a crime involving harm to others... not petty no-harm reasons they make up, as they go.  It's now dangerous to be near any cops, especially cops who are not your local neighbors or whom you already know isn't bias, judgemental, corrupted or prone to violence and crime.

  Think about it.  Our streets are packed. Tension everywhere. 10,000 extra unskilled drivers taking local cash flows, 4,000 local businesses folded this past year, 10,000 more new homeless and impoverished by high tech and bad city policy alone.  How much are we going to tolerate ?

   If John F. Kennedy's grandmother was on a stool resting, what officer in their right mind would even bother her ?

    Then this Sgt. (who by that rank should be very detail oriented -- unless under an undue bias, influence or conditioning or mal condition) after checking her California State BAR Card and State ID, knew she was a she, kept calling her 'Sir.'   Many time.   Very embarassing and her and I are both well known, fairly respected long time members of the community.  Known to not cause harm or be a danger to anyone.

    Quite the contrary.  We (myself, the elderly attorney and our network of peers) spend our time reducing harm, exposing abuse and saving lives, not for a living, but as a long time way of life.   

    So, we are calling for Mandatory Drug, Alcohol and Psychological Evaluations for all taxpayer paid law enforcement officers who carry lethal wepaons or this kind of 'nazified' apply all laws to all people mentality of the lowest order and the affects of elder abuse and abuse of all who are in need of rest will never end.

  Right now, her blood pressure is way up and we had to cancel tonight's legal meeting with the groups we came here to meet tonight.  I apologize to the members of the cannabis patients' union and the other clients who planned to meet up with us tonight. 

   I suspect we need mandatory testing and we need to have much more sensitivity training for these officers who are clueless about 'who' the should be wasting taxpayer time and money on and who not to.

   Folks bothering and endangering folks (as were the bad uber drivers all around us and the couple fighting and many other known, visible hazards that are violations of law around us that go directly to saving lives and reducing harm) are the only folks that laws should be applied to first. 

  After you remove all the renegade ride share drivers who cause real harm and all the folks who are on big pharma causing harm are in safe places then you can go hassle elders in peace sitting quietly if you must, but first you should be drug, alcohol and mental health tested while on taxpayer payrolls, because when you are out of conrol, innocent people go to jail and die, by your hands, not ours.

 Don't be petty or robotic in a world class city with real human beings who care and cause no harm.  It's almost always the folks who don't live here that come here to harm and steal from us all... living far away cops are no exception.  Easier to beat and steal from strangers than people in your own neighborhood.  

  J. Leonard, Client for K. Gottschalk, Atty.
  SF Community Advocate

Afterthought:  Folks who don't understand Elder Abuse or right to rest issues are often in denial and fall back on 'just doing my job' which is like an excuse as to why one feels a need to harass others not causing harm, in the first place.  Especially when our streets are filled with known dangerous distracted ride share drivers and others, en mass, all around us.